Thursday, March 17, 2011

NRI - Myths and Facts

I would like express my opinions and views here on a topic raised by my friend on facebook.

I would like to request the users to consider this as an honest opinion and I am not trying to be judgmental about any of the issues discussed here. When I don't agree with the views of some of the readers I hope we agree to disagree but do not develop any animosity towards the one we disagree with.

Before I go into the discussion I remember having a group discussion in my college regarding "Brain Drain" and I was the one who ferociously argued against "Brain Drain". Now I think I was wrong. By the way when we talk about Brain Drain we were not talking about people who migrate for working on the fields in Dubai or middle-east and other work or any work they could get their hands on. We are talking about the white collar job holders with at least a bachelors degree.


India brings back all it's citizens from foreign countries when they are in problem: people put it as "responsibility of a parent country" .......... once everything is fine people fly away from India saying that corruption is more in India, laws are not stringent, driving on Indian roads is like hell bla bla bla .... strange :) .......

I am thinking like this may be because I didnot get a chance to fly away ;) .....
 
I think it is the function of every Govt to safeguard the interests of its citizens. India or for that matter any country does not restrict its citizens from migrating to any other country either temporarily or permanently for the betterment of its own economy.
There may be people who try to justify the reason for their migration as Nageswar rao mentioned and I don't see anything wrong in that kind of justification. People migrate for a better living sometimes for themselves and sometimes for their families at the cost of their own lives. 
Some questions in context which Chandu has already raised: Would you fault with the people migrating to cities from villages in India. Would you fault people migrating from one state to another. If Telangana Struggle creates so much unrest in Hyderabad and people start looking for safer cities to migrate would you fault with them?
I appreciate Nageswara rao's integrity when he gives the benefit of doubt to the human nature. 
 
I think our discussion is not holisitc, since we are considering migration to countries where there is less corruption, better law and order, better driving habits and better roads though there is migration to countries like Libya, Egypt etc which are not as better as Sweden, US or UK or even India in some aspects.
 
  • Chandu Kota ‎1) People who fly away say that India is corrupt,raods are hell bla bla..But it doesnt work the other way. People dont fly away because of corruption and roads. Ask yourself, how many of the people you know flew for that reason?
    14 hours ago · · 2 people2 people like this.
  • Chandu Kota ‎2) 1/6th of the world population in 2.4% land(India). What do you expect? Thousands of people migrate from India every year.
    14 hours ago · · 3 peopleLoading...
  • Chandu Kota ‎3) Every rupee an NRI saves and sends to India,adds to the economy.The same thing cant be said of your income. Not that we or you do stuff intentionally, but thats how it works. Need to have better understanding of economics, to understand this part.
    14 hours ago ·
  • Chandu Kota ‎4) u say, people put it as "responsibility of a parent country", dont know what you are talking about. Last time I read about people stranded in Egypt, people had to pay twice the normal amount for Air India ticket, and rightly so coz Air India says, they have to fly empty one way
     
     
    You might be surprised to know that migration happens from every country for that matter including US which is considered to be the No.1 destination for Indians. Its human nature to continuously strive for ones betterment and this is acceptable.
     
    Aroon Kumar
    the basic thing what mr.nag is trying to tell is ....why people don't have gratitude towards something (be it nation or friend, in this case it is nation) that takes them into its warm and safe hands when everything is in trouble..and in co...unter we give it all the blame on its mistakes without remaining in the act of mending them....why do people have that kind of self centered attitude even in the case of motherland...? i guess mr chandu this wht mr nag is worried abt ...? it is not my question....so guys instead of liking the statement ..pls come forward to answer this? is that fair enough mr.nag ?
     
    People who are migrating from their home country does not in anyway mean lack of gratitude. I know of an NRI orgainzation here called PFL (People For Loksatta) who are trying their best to change our country for the better.
     
    Chandu Kota: So ppl in India dont call it corrupt? They do. It's just perception. When a person in India, says India is corrupt. It is opinion. When the same citizen livving outside, says the same thing, it is lack of gratitude. 
     
    Good question Chandu. I like your line of thinking.
     
    Aroon Kumar mr chandu ..u missed the point again....see only u can say how good or bad your room is...it is your knowledge abt it ...and if any visitor says the same thing it is their opinion...the topic is not abt these differences...when u know ur room is filthy and unkept...mr nag is saying why do u just stay in it when u feel insecure outside and blame it when u find no use of its shelter...? repet the question...ur stats is of no use here...the google can tell us...its abt the answer wht machines cant tell... is tht fair clear ?
     
    Aroon, your analogy is an oversimplification and misrepresentation of facts. Let me make it clear I don't doubt your good intentions though. You can't compare an NRI to a visitor, he was born and brought up in India, You can never take the India out of an Indian though you might take an Indian out of India. Though the visitor and owner of the room in your example say the same thing you seem to look at them differently which makes no sense.
     
    Aroon Kumar i never asked to show facts ....i dont really need to back my argument ...because i am not arguing at all...and even there is not letter in my sentences saying to prove it or wrong...and ... i am not unifiying NRIs....even living in the same street in india.. we blame the way how it is ...
     
      When someone says there is lot of corruption in India it does not mean they are blaming India. I cannot even find fault with people who say we can never change India though I do not agree with them. 
     
    You can't blame anyone without blaming yourself for what India is today since you are an Indian and you are responsible for what it is today. 
     
    Chandu Kota And for argument sake, lets assume watever nag initailly said is true. People take help from motherland and ditch it later. So are you saying humans in general are bad? or Indians are bad? or Indians who fly out to egypt,japan,uk and usa become bad? If you say its the last case, what is it impying? Lastly people hardly goto Japan to study or settle.Most of them are govt employess or contractors from Tcs,Wipro etc. So your point is that these people suddenly become bad?
     
    I don't think ditching the motherland has anything to do with where you are living. We as Indians have to work for the betterment of the country, whether living in India or elsewhere.
     
    Aroon Kumar
    so mr chandu ...u have arrived to the point where u can confidently say the statement is utterly false ..by unifying every NRI ...the thing ...i wanted u to tell this in ur first sentence itself...the concept of motherland is damn foolish t...hing here .lets not talk abt whether it is Indian or other..because it is not abt the country and its greatness.. its abt the human and his weakness...and wht mr .nag is telling is the same story how a boy feels abt liquor ...he or she would scold it untill they taste it ..and when they taste it ..they scold the water...and when they are thirsty they go for water ..and when they want to booz they go for a drink..u understood now ...no one can say it straight ...becoz it all lies in the attitude of an individual..because it is inside us...to blame others who are of no use to us for that moment...and we cant call them as a unit and tag them as bad NRIs..becoz not every man is a bad guy and the concept fails here...and mr nag is still way long to answer his inner fish...which is yet to drink the rum and feel low on water in that moment..mr chandu ...thank u for the time u have spent ..on commenting...
     
    Excellent points Aroon but again oversimplified examples or may be I failed to relate your example to the case in point. Like you rightly said it is about human nature but I would not be judgmental in calling it a weakness.
     
    • Nageswararao Pedapati coming to the reasons given above .... consider a person settled in US 5 years back and visiting India once in a year .... his/her friends or parents surely asks (during each visit) him to come back to India and settle here .... how much pecentage of ppl are coming back ?? what are the reasons they are giving ?? my status message was intended in keeping ppl like that in mind ...
      8 hours ago ·
     
    For the sake of discussion, can you tell me what is your agenda for them. How do you think they can change India into a better India which in your opinion can only be achieved by people living in India. Lets not talk for a moment on what reasons they give. Lets talk about why should they come back, what do we want them to do here in India.
     
     
       
     
 



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